What do you write and how long you been at it?
Big5 FU BA KSN CBS. I started writing BABY5 when I was ten. 1984. Our crew was “ice5” and everyone’s nickname had a 5 in it and I was the youngest. Breaking was hot and I couldn’t dance so I started tagging and doing letters. just around my neighborhood. My first block letters I did in a Bank of America parking lot off Redondo beach blvd. when I got my DL at 16 is when I really started going out and getting up. At that time I wrote Prae.
How did you come up with your name?
First it was BABY5, then I just wrote “skate or die” for a while in 86, someone gave me the name Chief2 in 87-89, my dad gave me the name Prae from 89-90, then Big5 90-present. Big5 started as a joke, my boy circus wrote Kmart at the time. So we both wrote store names. But it became more than that when I remembered the baby5 days. It’s like the 5 came full circle. It’s just me now. Most people just call me 5.
Can you tell us about your crews and how they got started?
I’m sure most people know the story’s of CBS. I was in from 92-94 & 2011-present. I started Frate Union in 93 and it was just me at first. I first painted trains in 92 and FU was my contribution to the train game. (There was no train game at the time tho). CON BA came to live in LA in 97 and that’s when I became a member of BA. One of the baddest freight crews in America. In 1998 I was put in KSN by OG Shine. Kings Stop at Nothing is an old LA crew and it was an honor!
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What do you write and what crews do you push?
I write HAUTE, and I represent ACT and TA.
When did you become interested in putting your name on trains?
I grew up in a small industrial town in the Midwest, trains were everywhere, you couldn’t drive through it without getting railroaded. When I started getting into writing it was only natural to hit the trains, something was very appealing to me about painting something that moved plus we just wanted to paint and chill, the layups were the perfect place to be, that was in the early 2000’s.
We have noticed that you have a thing for seeking out nice cars, what would you say is your favorite to paint?
I like painting everything but I can’t lie, there is nothing better to me than a flat white reefer. The repainted JRSX cars have been great because I don’t like sweeping people. It’s hard work to paint trains for most people and I respect that.
Hit us with an interesting story of one of your adventures.
Last year I drove 6 hours solo to go paint 2 cryos in an active yard, it was a real nail biter, I had never had the opportunity to get one and was kind of obsessing about it, after finishing up i was so stoked I slept in the trunk of my car so I could get flicks when the sun came up. It was fun and a great adventure.
Punkrock or Hip hop?
Everybody loves the classics.
What’s the must have jam to get you hype for the yard?
I’m all over the board with music, I’ve been listening to a lot of classic rock lately, call me dad, haha.
If you were hopping a freight across the country what would be in your bag?
Peanut butter, toilet paper, and book
from WRBT Railroaders Magazine issue 002... See the rest of the interview in issue 002...
How did you come up with your moniker name?
Back in the early 90’s a friend and crew mate of mine was looking through my benching archives and said ‘’Damn Dave you have so many flicks, they should call you The Kodak Kidd’ Right then, and there, the legend of The Kodak Kidd was born!
What crews do you currently push?
In the moniker culture Folklore Brotherhood which is more a movement and testament to the culture, than a crew. In aerosol, BCJ-Box Car Junkiez, NSF, Fr8ophiles.
How long have you been putting your name on trains?
Since late ‘94, ‘95. Just about 20 years.
Any changes you’ve noticed during that time?
A lot of changes. More writers on the scene than before. Obviously different boxcars. The paint has changed. Trains are a mess nowadays. So much stuff riding on them that shouldn’t be there. The rules have changed..THERE ARE NO RULES ANYMORE. The respect factor is a huge deal to me with the newer generation of freight writers.
If you were hopping a train, what would you take with you?
Water, rain jacket, small pot and spoon. Lighters, camera, cell, and sleeping bag
If you were hopping a train, where would you want to go?
Out West for sure, and also through the south west
Interview continued in Railroaders Magazine issue 002...
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The little wood shanty that used to trail faithfully after every string of freight cars-like many other railroad scenes-has undergone many changes in the past hundred years.
The box-like shelters train crews used to build to shield their cooking fires on spare platform cars in the mid 1800s, the converted box cars with sliding doors used around the turn of the century, the cupola-topped wooden cabooses popular after World War I, all have given way to ever more modern, efficient and better-equipped cabooses.
Today’s SP caboose with its sleek bay windows of shatterproof glass, automatic oil heater, electric lights and refrigerator, drinking fountain, radio-telephone and specially-designed Pullman-type crew seats is fast becoming an operating symbol of the technological advances continually being made by SP. Rapidly disappearing are the old-fashioned hard benches and feather dusters, the coalbin and the kerosene lamp and the lazy board. The caboose has become a rolling office, efficient and functional, vastly different from its forebears. The origin of the caboose is un-certain. Even its birthdate is unknown. The most generally accepted story of its beginning is that a man named Nat Williams - a freight conductor on the Auburn & Syracuse Railroad during the 1830s - made it his custom to sit in the last car of a freight train on a box or barrel and direct the train’s operation. As trains and runs grew longer, some railroads provided platform cars for their train crews, and eventually converted box cars for crews to use as shelters.
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How did you come up with your name and what
crews do you push?
My name is a reference to Rancid song. The few things that stuck with me since childhood have been trains, punk rock, and skateboarding. I drew the noose and needed something… the name just seemed to fit. I’ve had a few monikers over the years but this one seems to have stuck the longest. My crew is DH. It’s a rail riding crew, not a graffiti crew. I have to say that because we don’t go out just to mark cars all that often. We kinda stick to ourselves and act miserable, like any good drunk hobo does.
How long have you been putting your name on trains?
I’ve been writing on trains since 2003. It’s been a slew of different names/drawings but I didn’t take it seriously until I met Moss and rode my first freight in 2008.
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